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| Group |
Round |
C/R |
Comment |
Date |
Image |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Yes, absolutely...agree. :) |
Jan 17th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Hi Georgianne!
I appreciate the use of solid digital Darkroom tools - and though your version is acceptable, it swayed away from the original interpretation: The detail in the sky-clouds behind the trees is lost (new version has sky highlights nearly Blown) and the tree bark in the foreground tree is lost. Lastly, the custom cooper-silver dip has been altered.
All taken together, they radically change the finished Ethereal aesthetic of the original. |
Jan 17th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Assuming the entire original photograph is untouched:
No. Will have to disagree with you Jane: Nothing should be removed - not because I think its not authentic to do so, but removing shapes, lines and even textures, as a whole, would tear out the characteristic elements which represent the essence of the scene.
Alternatively, we can comment on how to capture the scene in the future: whether that is from a slightly different perspective (from position or lens choice), shoot at a different time of day, or revise post-production values.
Overall, the composition is great! A lovely Winter Scene that one can easily feel the chill with the first look. :) |
Jan 14th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Gee, I almost forgot to review this image....
Of course, without your commentary, no one is ever going to think the wind moved that glove! LOL! But, indeed, "you got the shot".
First, I like the strong contrast, it just fits the subject and the environment they are in. Details are very good, but if this was part of a commercial effort, I suggest, Dodging both ski boots: I mean, just a little, to bring more detail to the viewer. One more point: since the space does not have to be defined, like other compositions, 'crop' right side to equal left, or use a Square format, if applicable. Just a thought. :)
Then, send the shot off to their marketing department! You never know, it may end up in an Ad. :) |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
My pleasure, Judy. I am glad you are exploring: as I spoke about in the past, the process of "Visualization" is really a key component in "Finding" a subject - a composition, like the one here, which may be invisible to others, becomes visible to me. Be relaxed, and never rush a hike or other photography exploration - its all about becoming one with the environment which can potentially unleash creativity from behind the lens. :) |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Judy, I prefer the "color-dip" or "Toning" available on NIK Silver Efex-Pro-2. It is the best - it is also the only software I use to convert color images to BW, so of course, it is also convenient since I am already in that program.
All my color image file (and even BW file scans) I use only PSCC, and PSCC option,"Camera Raw". |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
And actually, the High ISO could add a bit of Noise (or film-grain aesthetic) so this is OK for this subject and your specific nostalgic narrative. Hope to see other Newer Landscape images from you later in the spring and summer, and some shots with a higher ISO....the experimenting can be fun. |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Hi Dirk!
I like these type of vivid renderings - I sometimes render my BW similarly, but for sure it needs to be done on the correct subject - and here I feel this winter-scape is one of them. The scene is engaging, but hard to really enjoy, as I see a lot of blurring or pixelation.
The entire scene seems pixelated. Also, are those mountains in the background? Did you selectively wash them out?
I guess, a bit more information on how this photograph was captured would help to identify and answer a few of these questions.
Thanks, Dirk. :)
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Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
To everyone:
Again, and I keep trying to get the PSA to upgrade their system, in many cases it is fruitless to revise, change or fix participants photos because everything is in Low Resolution.
In addition, the original and final images are in many cases, hard to really understand or see clearly. So, group members are not sure if what they see is due to Low Resolution of other issue.
Oh, well. We do our best. |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Hey, Jane!
It is a well composed Landscape scene. :)
For me the "Rock" adds an engaging aspect to the scene. Yes.
If you add color dips after an image has been converted to BW, most photographers and photography organizations accept this. I do a lot of BW work that is "dipped", as it were.
In this case, Judy was correct - a blue-dip will enhance the cold, frigid, but calming winter narrative. |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Main differences will selective Dodging or lightening-brightening. I still believe a "layer" may be the culprit in the original color image, but sure. This new version should be a little less troublesome in the tree-limbs, especially covering the barn.
Georgianne has already told me she will try and find the original file to perhaps start from scratch on this one.
It will be fun to experiment! |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Hi Georgianne....so, I maintained your exact composition, but tried to make more separation between the textures.
1. I selectively desaturated a few colors, then adjusted their luminosity (effectively, it is the same as dodge & burning),
2. then took the "structure" and slide it to the Negative to mitigate detail.
3. Instead of the Yellow filter, I passed it through the Orange: this allowed for darker leaves at strategic points in the photograph.
4. Then added a strong copper-dip.
It was hard to use the original color image, it was barely 1MB, but perhaps if you can find the original file from the camera, this may be better. If a Layer was added to the color image, then this too, can cause the "distraction" or disturbance within the textures. In any case, you will see some of the changes I was looking for....
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Jan 12th |
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| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Hello, Georgianne.
Right off the bat, this subject is perfect for BW rendering, and in this case trying to capture both the intricacies of texture in the different types of wood and foliage, along with hopefully to suggest a nostalgic or in this case, a (slightly) dreamy narrative, the subject is well chosen.
Tech: though it is very sunny, you choose an ISO-1250, which of course is very high for this type of sunlight - can you share your reasoning for this, and for the other settings in this exposure? Tripod?
As Judy eluded to, in the BW conversion the engaging contrast between the sun-lit patches and shadows are just a bit too muted, in my opinion. However, I don't think the "dreamy" look would be compromised with some brightening (Dodging) in those areas.
However, in my opinion, the final overall visual presentation has the various textures melting within each other,unlike the color version. And this brings a lot of "conflict" into the scene: Conflict is OK, but it is a bit too powerful here.
Suggestions: bring the color version saturation down, and "decrease" "Structure". Eliminate any type of vignetting and see if this helps in bringing back texture-separation. (I will DL your photo and try an alternative BW version). |
Jan 12th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Appreciate your comments, Judy.
Yes, like most of my work, the scene is composed through the viewfinder - and I do my best to include or ignore certain parts, areas and play with perspectives, but only after something catches my attention (my interest). Here, the sun as it tries to pierce the weakening fog.
Using a 16-35mm lens, the 16mm wide angle perspective worked best to convey my reaction to the scene in real-time. |
Jan 10th |
| 83 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Hi Dirk....I understand your comment....and the center point on photo-sky area is central to the photograph, but when it (was) darker, it looked more claustrophobic. I will try darkening (again)it a little, but it is still important the foreground detail remain relatively sharp.
I will Burn only the bottom portion and see the results. I will post later on Friday. Thanks, dirk!
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Jan 10th |
7 comments - 8 replies for Group 83
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| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
No. Steven eluded to this as well...the frame as seen and captured, stays. It not always necessary to find a main focal point in any type of visual art: in this case, the 24mm fixed glass was used to capture the "whole" and not just the leaf.
:) |
Jan 13th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Hi Mike!
Yup, I had a look at them....they do distract. I may "burn" them to calm them down.
Appreciate the comment. :) |
Jan 13th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Oh, the image you sent me is the one posted. I do not have the vertical format one Steven has....a bit confusing. |
Jan 8th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
I am a bit confused with this discussion: Jennifer, did you crop through the viewfinder? And where did Steven get a different crop?? |
Jan 8th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Agreed, there is mo apparent noise associated with the higher ISO, but frankly, unless the ISO is really tuned up high, nowadays, onboard processors are very sophisticated and less noise is enjoyed through the ISO range. |
Jan 8th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Appreciate your engaging feedback:
The idea is, to roam: it not always necessary to find a main focal point in any type of visual art: in this case, the 24mm fixed glass was used to capture the "whole" and not just the leaf.
In this examination, the leaf is almost hidden for a moment, and is the essence of its proposed appeal. I have another like this, and it is closer - as you suggested. It is also very interesting (as it too, is underwater), but carries an alternative vibe, if you will, unlike the main photograph, above. (I have attached the alternative image here).
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Jan 7th |
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| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Reply |
Sounds like a plan! :) |
Jan 7th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Hi Jennifer! Yes, indeed, this works well as a BW rendering, but in my opinion, almost all landscape work in grey-scale.
I really like the play on two different shapes, and textures that interplay here: The foreground vertical (white Birch?)to the seemingly zig-zagging group of Birch in the distance.(Yes, an almost Yin/Yang descriptive) An interesting and engaging juxtaposition, Jennifer.
Question, it very clear and bright - why did you choose an ISO-640?? |
Jan 7th |
| 87 |
Jan 20 |
Comment |
Hi Steven! Yes, this is really very interesting photography...I saw a lot of this type of photography throughout 2019....your Study is well done and I really like the use of the colored gel.
I am not familiar with the techniques used to capture these types of shots, but is it possible to capture the scene from "above"? I am just thinking of alternative perspectives from the usual. Can't wait to see more from this work-study. |
Jan 7th |
2 comments - 7 replies for Group 87
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9 comments - 15 replies Total
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